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Invasive Fish Question V.chain Pickerel.


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#1 ouird

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:27 PM

Hi there, i posted a video of me catching a chain pickerel on another forum today.
I had a fellow say i should have killed the fish due to it being "invasive" (i told him i dont eat them, and im not going to kill a fish and leave it).
im trying to find where it says that you cannot kill a fish that you arent using for consumption (regardless if its considered invasive or not). can you guide me to where this is stated?

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:34 PM

Page 55 of the 2012 handbook

• No person who is fishing for personal use
or fishing for recreational or sport purposes
may waste any fish that is suitable for human
consumption.
"There's more to fishing than catching fish"
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:35 PM

ty sir!!

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:35 PM

General Regs, page 55 of the '12 handbook:

MISCELLANEOUS


Any fish taken by recreational fishing is for
domestic use only and may not be sold or bartered.


No person who is fishing for personal use
or fishing for recreational or sport purposes
may waste any fish that is suitable for human
consumption.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:36 PM

View Postouird, on 19 March 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

ty sir!!

NP, glad to help
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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:37 PM

Although I must say pickerel are quite tasty when baked with butter,salt, lemon and gairloc powder ;)
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 01:06 AM

Pickerel are delicious.....everyone should start eating them! I fillet well over a 100 each summer and everyone that has had them - loves them! Rather give someone nice boneless pickerel fillets than kill a trout.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:36 AM

ouird, The person who said you should have killed the fish because it was an "invasive" (and you are really going to make a difference), ought to get a life. His statement is analagous to King Canute ordering the tide to stop coming in.
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Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:37 AM

I actually get that comments a lots and the weird look when I put the small pickerel back in the water, but I have for my say that "you kill to eat or you release it" well thats what my father teached me about killing animal and fish when I was a kid, invasive or not and like Big guy and Ducknuts said, it is a very good fish to eat, also a good fight on the rod even the small one so a good sport fishing and to repeat what Shimanoman said, is it really going to make a difference to kill a pickerel just on the fact that they are invasive!

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:59 AM

I like them with a nice beer batter and fried up...mmmm...even just floured and pan fried with salt, pepper, Lemon and white wine....now that's a shore lunch!

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 10:53 AM

View PostLuciano, on 20 March 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

I like them with a nice beer batter and fried up...mmmm...even just floured and pan fried with salt, pepper, Lemon and white wine....now that's a shore lunch!
You sound like a chef!!!!

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 10:53 AM

View PostLuciano, on 20 March 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

I like them with a nice beer batter and fried up...mmmm...even just floured and pan fried with salt, pepper, Lemon and white wine....now that's a shore lunch!
You sound like a chef!!!!

#14 ouird

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 11:00 AM

I Can tell you me Makes very good Cheese!!!!

#15 Luciano

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 01:55 PM

Yes Chef I am!

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 06:02 PM

View PostLuciano, on 20 March 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

Yes Chef I am!

Nice, me as well. We will have to hook up sometime!!

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 06:16 PM

View PostChef, on 20 March 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

Nice, me as well. We will have to hook up sometime!!

What a coincidence! You guys are all chefs and I like to eat.


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Posted 17 May 2012 - 11:54 AM

This is a topic that seems to come up a lot, all I have to say is if one guy kills ten pickerel a day, it will just make them reproduce more. They may not be liked by everyone but they aren't going away. The last time i took one home to eat, it was still moving after being out of the water about an hour, being gutted, and when its head came off it was still trying to gulp air. These things were built to survive and while i think its a shame that we have lost many a good trout lake, we now have an apex predator with a resilience and will to survive that demands respect... Also, they are delicious :P
If you want to kill every pickerel you catch, I have no issue with that... but someone better be eating it, dont just kill it to kill it. That's like shooting a deer and turning around and walking away. They are an invasive species from europe and after all these years, they've pretty much levelled out. In the end nature has a way of making things work. Anyway thats my rant, haha I personally love catching them and plan to spend lots of time catching and releasing them this summer and for years to come.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:29 PM

View Postmcmullen759, on 17 May 2012 - 11:54 AM, said:

This is a topic that seems to come up a lot, all I have to say is if one guy kills ten pickerel a day, it will just make them reproduce more. They may not be liked by everyone but they aren't going away. The last time i took one home to eat, it was still moving after being out of the water about an hour, being gutted, and when its head came off it was still trying to gulp air. These things were built to survive and while i think its a shame that we have lost many a good trout lake, we now have an apex predator with a resilience and will to survive that demands respect... Also, they are delicious :P
If you want to kill every pickerel you catch, I have no issue with that... but someone better be eating it, dont just kill it to kill it. That's like shooting a deer and turning around and walking away. They are an invasive species from europe and after all these years, they've pretty much levelled out. In the end nature has a way of making things work. Anyway thats my rant, haha I personally love catching them and plan to spend lots of time catching and releasing them this summer and for years to come.

Ya, what he said!

Besides, they survive in waters most fish can't. Shortts lake is a prime example. It is so choked in weeds, algae and rot now that I'm pretty sure if you put a trout in it the thing would die in a couple minutes. Theres hardly any gravel or rock visible anymore for the trout to spawn in.

And why does everyone bash the pickerel but not bass? They are an invasive species in most lakes they are present in also. But you don't hear people wanting to kill everyone of them they catch.

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:38 PM

Unfortunately, getting rid of an invasive is like trying to put the genie back in the bottle. I despise those mutton-heads who transplant these species and have no idea of the damage they are causing. It makes my blood boil to see our provincial fish declining in no small part because of them. They are indeed lucky that it isn't me making the rules to deal with those people.
If it was simply a lake or even a few lakes we are talking about it wouldn't be so bad, but it is watersheds and that is a whole different animal. Apparently, Pickerel have made it into the Stewiacke river, what's next, the Margaree, the Middle, the East Pictou?
The powers that be simply have turned a blind eye it seems to these problems and all but given up. I'm not sure if that is because of a lack of will on their part or simply because they have no idea as to how to deal with it. Either way, those a$$holes who have created this problem are getting their wish of a proliferation of those species at the trout's and our expense. Unless something is done and soon it will be the trout which is on the endangered list in Nova Scotia.

Tim
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Tim

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 05:57 PM

Great post Raven , I kill evry pickeral I come in contact with . And Mcmullen deer are native ...there is no comparsion to that statement . Its the same as shooting a coyote and turning around and leaving it behind .....as I do that as well .





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